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    mandi
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    I have read alot on this discussion topic and i agree that people shouldnt put dogs on chains and just leave them, but what about like me kinda i cant keep my pup inside… one he is way to big and two i have kittens inside right now that im tryin to get adopted out and then i have an older cat and he likes to chase my cats and that doesnt really make for a very good situation because i cant have 4 cats running around the house and a dog…. yes this is going to make some of you mad but i do keep my dog on a chain, but i walk him everyday and he gets alot of attention. Im not like alot of people and just leave my dog out there to just like rot away i go up everyday, even in the mornings when im up gettin ready to head out, i go up and pet him and talk to him and get one of his toys and play fetch with him… so am i a bad person for having my dog on a chain?

    #450593

    Stephanie
    Member

    lol….I have a DOGS DESERVE BETTER – NO MORE CHAINS magnet on the side of my car….that said…
    Are you a bad person? No.
    Would your dog rather be inside and be part of the family? Most definately.
    A fence would be wonderful—though I don’t like ANY pets TOTALLY outdoors. I understand though that fencing can be expensive….when you choose to give an animal a home-that DOES come with expenses though.
    A dog-any dog-CAN be properly taught how to behave around cats. I have an indoor dog and 3 indoors cats-they all do fine. Did they do fine initially? No. I MADE IT HAPPEN. IT CAN BE DONE-period…but it DOES take time, effort, PATIENCE and CONSISTENCY.
    Your dog no more wants to be chained up outside than you would.
    I would certainly implore you to reconsider. 🙂

    #450594

    mandi
    Member

    I understand where you are coming from i dont like to see dogs on chains, but you know yes i realize animals come with expences and think i do a great job as far as taking care of my animals… yes i also realize that dogs can be trained and as soon as im done training him with this other stuff i’ll start to work on his skills with cats, but right now im tryin to find homes for kittens because i dont want to see them go a to a shelter. I have looked into fencing and the problem with that is i have a hill instead of a yard, but im doin my best to tryi and level it out……..

    #450595

    Stephanie
    Member

    If you think you are doing a great job with your animals, then that’s all that matters.
    Good luck on your kittens and working on your dog with you cats in the future.
    🙂

    #450596

    mandi
    Member

    thanks!

    #450597

    Mikka
    Member

    me personally? i dont think its fair that the your dog is chained up outside, but it sounds like the situation is temporary (i hope), no i dont think you are a bad person but i guess as long as your dog is healthy and PROPERLY taken care of as long as the situation is temporary than you shouldnt feel too bad. how long has your dog been outside? and it also depends on what the climate is in your area.

    #450598

    Danny
    Participant

    I know it probably wont happen but I guess the best way to find out is to try it yourself. Dog energy level is yours times 7. So the next time you have a bunch of energy go out to where you chain your dog, sit on the ground for the same amount of time and decide how you feel. Then factor in your dogs energy level along with the fact that everything happens about 7 times faster, 7 times worse, and on a positive 7 times better when your a dog. If it is no fun for you to be stuck with no way out then take that feeling add the extra energy and times it by 7 to get your answer…
    Your dog gets depressed like you…x 7!

    #450599

    Carrie
    Member

    I think that you know that keeping a dog on a chain isn’t the best or you would not have written this. However I think that as long as you put the effort in to take him for at least two walks a day. Play with him, let him in the house to relaxe with the family. Bring him in in cold or rainy days. OR when there is really hot days . Make sure you have a really nice dog house that blocks all wind and water. I think that your fine. It really takes a balance. There are a lot of people who keep their dogs inside all the time is that any better???? I think not.
    Balance every animal needs balance. Inside, Outside, Playtime , Relax time.
    Just keep it in Balance

    #450600

    mandi
    Member

    Thanks this is one of the best replys i have gotten so far! I do take him for walks and when its cold and rainy he comes in and stays, he is played with alot also. I just cant believe people if you say that you have a dog that is on a chain they automatically think well then your a bad person for that but thats not what it means at all! My animals are very much taken care of, sometimes i wonder if they get better care then some humans do lol

    #450601

    Danny
    Participant

    "I just cant believe people if you say that you have a dog that is on a chain they automatically think well then your a bad person for that but that’s not what it means at all!"
    For The Dogs –
    Hmm, I think somewhere on this web site I have strongly opposed putting dogs on chains.
    Because I know first hand that it makes them aggressive and depressed I am against it, but yes I learned having done so myself. But I for one don’t believe I judged those who do as bad people. It is possible to be a wonderful person but a terrible pet owner. ..
    Haybells after reading my last sentence do you feel I am referring to you as a terrible pet owner? Yes? Well then there’s the problem, and a secondary one at that. I don’t know you to say such thing. Your assuming people think pet owners that put their dogs on a chain are bad people! Has someone told you personally that you are bad for doing this? One, two, three people? If that is all why let it bother you?
    No one is calling people "bad" per-say for putting there dogs on a chain. Ignorant maybe? But not bad! Ignorance is the kissing cousin to stupidity, and can only exist if after the facts surface someone continues to behave in a particular way. However are they bad after they’ve been bitten by knowledge? Maybe, maybe not?
    I find your willingness to "feel better" when other posters agree that "your" not a bad person somewhat self-absorbed/centered. Meaning if I remember correctly this discussion is really about the dogs "feelings" not yours. After all it is the dog tied up (not you) when your not walking him, when your not petting him in your house etc etc..hes on the chain not you.
    So to speak of all the wonderful things you do for your dog is really besides the point but obvious to me your feeling guilt to some degree. We all do, I have had to tie my dogs as well, not for many years though. Its not what people think, its what the dog thinks and plenty of evidence (and my experience) says it is not good to do. Sorry no other way to put it and be honest. If I’m now on your black list, that is fine, but continues the point I have already made; if your angry at me your still not thinking about the dog your thinking about you!
    With all due respect this is about a time frame when the dog is ‘on the chain" not in your lap. It is about when he/she is stuck doing something he doesn’t want to do. His life is already short and 7 minutes on a chain to him really does feel like 49! No guilt trip intended for you just the facts for the dogs and for all the other owners out there who tie their dogs regularly.
    I disagree with other poster who compares being inside to outside on a chain as the same. Again with all due respect; Inside the dog will sleep without distraction, outside the dog will see the world around him, a bird fly by, another dog walk by and if on a chain year after year will get depressed wondering why he always must be stuck rather then out running with the rest. That’s all, its pretty simple common since.
    But I do believe you are more concerned about "you" and how people feel about "you" then your dog.
    I was serious when I wrote in previous post ‘go try it"!
    With that said, nobody that I know of including me is degrading you (personally) as a person, a dog owner etc for chaining your dog. We are (or at least I am) discussing ‘what the dog goes through" because this is about "the dog" who happens to be under your control.
    Otherwise I’m sure your a great pet owner.
    my .02 cents

    #450602

    Mikka
    Member

    Rottie
    i agree with you 100%!!! you said it exactly as i wanted to!
    i hope you take that dog inside and that you really are "trying" to find a place for those cats

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    #450603

    Mikka
    Member

    another point if your dog "is way big" why do you have him in the first place if you cant keep him in?

    #450604

    Danny
    Participant

    Hey BeanSophiemom
    thanks for your comments and the dogs spending more-or-less a third of their lives on a chain thank you even more. (x7), lol!
    For what its worth –
    Id like to add something additional that may not cross the minds of all dog owners? My dogs are of coarse my pets, as is yours. But we dog owners get an additional bang for our buck in that are dogs are our eyes and ears when we are asleep or away from our home.
    My dog last week at about 3 AM went through my window (unfortunately, yes through my window) to check on a noise she heard. Apparently still groggy she forgot to check the small sliding window to see if it was open, it was not! 🙁 But shes fine, no cuts as not cuts last year when she did this for the first time. Must replace window with dogie door!! The point is this is what dogs do as you know they are our protectors. Turned out someone was just outside the fence acting suspicious and walked away via persuasion by my dog. On the funny side, don’t know if prowler saw my dog come through window but if he had he must have had to go home and change the underpants?
    While we don’t want our dogs barking at our friends/company we do want them barking at strangers. But maybe not at the expense of our windows!
    That said, I know people who have fences (and I agree and am one of them) but leave their dogs inside while not at home for an additional reason, and its a big one. To prevent strangers from becoming the dogs friend through your fence while your away.
    There are a lot of people who live in shaky neighborhoods including myself and/or nice neighborhoods but have shaky neighbors or strangers cruising their streets. I have also noticed certain individuals (that I would not want on the inside of my fence) trying to make friends with my dogs while walking by. I DONT WANT MY DOGS TO TRUST THESE PEOPLE. I watch as closely as I can when my dogs are running lose (inside my fence of coarse) and call them when someone whom looks a bit shady comes along and starts talking to them. Don’t let your dogs be fooled in the same way we don’t want our human children to be fooled.
    Professional criminals stalk neighborhoods by day and come out at night. And could be living right next door!
    Granted most criminals will normally pass by yards with a dog, especially dogs in the weight range of 100 pounds. That said they also may think your guard is down because in the back of your mind you have a dog (alarm system etc).
    Don’t drop your guard and don’t let strangers become your dogs friends. Otherwise at three in the morning Fido may let them over the fence for the same treat hes been getting (behind your back) now for the last two months. Thieves live for the challenge not just the lute!
    Keeping your dog(s) in when your away prevents the bad guy from brainwashing your dogs.
    If you have to chain, do it away from strangers access to them.

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    #450605

    Mikka
    Member

    i live in a shaky neighborhood (10 sex offenders in a 1 and a half block radius) and close to the "bad" part of town and i know what you mean about wierdos trying to befriend your dog. my bigger one chases anyone that comes near me or the yard (if i dont have him on his lead but only when i am outside with him) but i stopped letting off his lead when someone tried to hit him with a shopping bag filled with who knows what and he started snapping at him. but she sleeps in her crate and he sleeps either with me or in the livingroom, and i feel so safe and lucky to have them both choose me as their person. but chains drive me nuts too. what if the dog gets loose when you are away from home?

    #450606

    Danny
    Participant

    "what if the dog gets loose when you are away from home?"
    Good point, Im sure many can vouch to seeing a dog running lose with a rope or chain dragging. Not a good thing, especially if it gets stuck somewhere where no one can see or hear the dog.

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