Are you a vegetarian? I was a vegetarian for three days and I couldn’t stand it! Kudos to you if you can do it but I met my meat…and I ate it too…sorry…I’m not trying to be mean but I don’t oppose eating meat. Do I think slaughterhouses are being poorly run? Yes…but I think with some work they can make them better and more humane…there is an autistic woman out west that runs a whole bunch of humane slaughterhouses…reforms are definitely in the process. Do I think it’s wrong to kill cows for food? No. I like cheeseburgers and steak very much and killing for food is a basic principle that is understood and respected by all animals…including people. So we were born with a conscience? So what? We need our protein too! Slaughtering cows is inevitable so if you want to make a difference…work to make slaughterhouses better and more humane…don’t protest against animal slaughter as a whole.

I hope you are aware that PETA’s unformation is beyond unreliable. PETA is a horribly run organization that lies and does horrible acts to "protest animal rights". Like Arab said- we should be working for animal welfare, not their rights. Several times PETA has set a bunch of dogs from shelters free because they "didn’t like it there". It was a friendly, humane, shelter finding homes for the dogs. You know what happened? The shelter was near a highway and all the dogs ran into the road and got hit. That’s just one of the things PETA has done. I think if you research a bit more you actually won’t be as disapointed with the meat industry. Its gotten much better, cleaner, and safer since the progressive era (thank god!). More animals are actually killed and have their homes destroyed through planting more soy and wheat fields for the growing number of vegetarians. So yeah…look around! You might be surprised!

More animals are actually killed and have their homes destroyed through planting more soy and wheat fields for the growing number of vegetarians. That is false. I didn’t really want to get into this kind of thing, as I have gotten in this kind of discussion before, and it drove me nuts! But I guess I’ll put my two cents in… Many big factory farms raise animals in horrible conditions: cramped cages where they live for a good portion of their life, fed very much to become so fat that they can hardly support their own weight, etc. Then they are shipped off in cramped livestock trucks to slaugher houses.This is where the real horror begins. At the slaughter houses, they are pushed, poked, and prodded into a little shute. They are very afraid, as they have no clue what has happened (they are already permantly scarred from the horrible life that they have lived). Then, once the get to the front of the line, a nail gun is put to their head and shoots a piece of metal into their head, then it is pulled back out. This is meant to kill them, or at least, knock them unconscious. But often times the animals are still fully conscious as their legs are tied and they are hung by their legs to special device. Then their throats are slit (remember, some are still conscious), and they bleed to death (if not already dead). Now, that is just for cows and pigs and such. Chickens are often scalded while still fully conscious. (this is at the place where KFC buys their chickens)…. I could go on, but I think I’ve said enough…..

Hmmmm????? Self deceit, have you read my earlier post? MG was just supporting that…she NEVER said it wasn’t cruel but she is saying that sometimes we try so hard to do the right thing that sometimed we do the wrong thing instead. COWS ARE GOING TO DIE. That’s inevitable. Horses really shouldn’t because we don’t eat them here…but we definitely eat cows…we definitely eat chicken…and we definitely eat pigs! No matter how many vegetarians there are in the world…there are still just as many people who DO eat meat and THOSE are the people who the cows are being slaughtered for…and those people never go away. Tell me. Do you eat meat? If you do you have no right to say slaughter is wrong because you are supporting it. If you don’t, way to go…like I said…I never could do that… BUT THE PROBLEM IS NOT THE FACT WE ARE SLAUGHTERING ANIMALS! It is the fact that we are doing it cruelly (which, yes, I noticed you did mention! ;)) But realize too that we ARE making reforms…things have the potential to get better for these cows and chickens…AND THAT’S WHAT WE SHOULD BE FIGHTING FOR. You CANNOT beat the slaughterhouse game but you can make the animals’ lives better by making the slaughterhouses more humane. One final thing here before I go…you mentioned the chickens that get scalded while they are still alive…have you ever eaten a lobster? Maybe I take it for granted that everyone knows how to cook lobster (I’m from Maine…)…But do you know how they cook lobster? Do you consider that cruel as well? Have you ever considered it? Hmmm…something to think about… (P.S. You cook lobster by putting the live lobster into a pot of boiling water… ) oh yeah, and one more thing…animals really DO lose their homes to wheat fields and such! Think about it!